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Wanted Dead or Alive, but Mostly Dead

Posted by MyLaowai on Monday, May 2, 2011

I am reliably informed that Usama Bin Laden has been killed, though the details are not as yet clear.

This is a very good thing, as it will save the FBI from the embarrassment of a trial at which the prosecution is not able to present any evidence that will stand up to cross-examination. Not that I doubt in the slightest that the accused was guilty of everything he was accused of. Good riddance to bad rubbish I reckon. I only hope they bury him wrapped inside a pig’s carcass, in a nice, deep grave. Face down.

Now that that’s all settled, can we perhaps go after the really bad guys, like Hu ‘the butcher‘ Jintao for instance? Or are we going to allow ‘business as usual’ to determine who is considered Bad?

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86 Responses to “Wanted Dead or Alive, but Mostly Dead”

  1. Osama said

    Don’t take all busllhit from STRATFOR for granted. Even if Osama is dead, a new Osama will take his place.

  2. 0112337 said

    Recite after me, unholy infidels,

    “Allahummaghfirli, warhamnii, wajburnii, warfa’nii, warzuqnii, wahdinii, wa’afinii, wa’fu’annii”,Allaahumma salli ‘alaa Muhammadin”

    اللهم صلى على محمد وعلى آل محمد كما صليت على إبراهيم وعلى آل إبراهيم
    وبارك على محمد وعلى آل محمد كما باركت على إبراهيم وعلى آل إبراهيم
    فى العالمين إنك حميد مجيد

    “ALLAHU-ACKBAR!!”

    • Scoobydo said

      To be fair, I don’t think 0112337 has suddenly morphed into an Islamic militant.

      One thing I admire about the CPC (the only thing I admire?) is that they don’t f*ck about with Islamic militants.

      In the 21st century, one country (and its sphere of influence) where Muslims won’t make inroads is China.

      Islam has a political agenda – domination – and that doesn’t go down well with the CPC.

      God bless them. Sorry Karl Marx bless them.

      On second thoughts, Milton Freidman bless them.

      • Nips Are Great said

        You obviously don’t know anything about Islam.

        And 0112337 has a personality disorder. He has posed as a chink investment banker managing his family’s multi-million portfolio, then as a jungle-bunny descendant of Kunte Kintay, and now he’s making like a misguided Muslim ideologue – really an impressive bit of cutting and pasting on 0112337’s part.

        Islam does not have a political agenda. Does Christianity?

        The commie chinks have a political agenda – domination – and that doesn’t go down well with their neighbours they have invaded and threaten to invade.

        Islam is a religion that has some unhappy people in it that cause problems (same as Christianity). Those people represent a miniscule percentage of mainstream/ordinary Muslims. The events that have taken place in North Africa and the Middle East over the past few months are testament to the moderates in the Islamic world who are interested in ideas like liberty, fraternity, and equality – essentially a rejection of bin Laden & co. and what he/they represent.

        The people of East Turkestan (a.k.a. Xin Jiang / New Territory – translation gives it away eh?) are unhappy because they were invaded and are now occupied by the commie chinks and its PLA.

        They happen to be Islamic.

        East Turkestan belongs to the East Turkestanis, not the commie chinks and its PLA and the yellow runts who get incentives to move there and occupy it for the CCP / chinkistan inc.

        There is nothing to admire about the odious CCP. It and its leaders will eventually go down in history with all the other nasty ones; Hitler, Stalin, Solath Sar/Pol Pot…

        Go back to watching your favourite cartoon.

      • MyLaowai said

        Extremely well said, Sir.

      • Scoobydo said

        Islam is a religion that has some unhappy people in it that cause problems (same as Christianity).

        In April 2011, Islamic terrorists carried out 152 Jihad attacks, in 19 countries (Including India, Algeria, Morocco, Thailand, Somalia, Nigeria, Palestine, Yemen, Ethiopia, Dagestan, Pakistan, Indonesia), killing 802 people and critically injuring 1,401.

        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

        How many people did Christian terrorists kill in the name of God in April?

        Those people represent a miniscule percentage of mainstream/ordinary Muslims.

        Actually, no many of those ‘moderate’ Muslims have pretty hard core ideas.

        For instance,

        83% of Pakistani Muslims support stoning adulterers

        80% Support the cutting of hands of thieves

        78% of Pakistani Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam

        http://pewglobal.org/2009/08/13/pakistani-public-opinion/

        Islam does not have a political agenda.

        The Ayatollah Khomeini wants to spit on you for being so foolish as to make such a claim.

        “Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.

        But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war.

        Those [who say this] are witless.

        Islam says, kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! …Whatever good there is, exists thanks to the sword, and in the shadow of the sword!

        People cannot be made obedient, except with the sword!

        The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors!

        …Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war?

        I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

        —Ayatollah Khomeini (1902-1989) Iran’s Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989—the highest ranking political and religious authority of the nation.

        Go back to watching your favourite cartoon.

        Is yours watching the twin towers being brought down by Osama Bin Laden by any chance?

        Or are you just so blinded with hate from for the CPC that you naively assume that your enemy’s enemy is your friend?

      • Scoobydo said

        “You obviously don’t know anything about Islam.”

        Actually, I have made a point of studying the Koran and Sharia law.

        I can tell that you haven’t. Liberals like you would make me laugh if you didn’t make so many ignorant presumptions.

        You appear to pride yourself in not being an Islamophobe.

        This then means that:

        (1) You don’t favour equal rights and treatment of men and women.

        (2) You don’t oppose stoning of women accused of adultery.

        (3) You don’t favour education of girls.

        (4) You don’t support freedom of expression and the press

        (5) You don’t oppose the death penalty for Muslims who convert to another religion.

        (6) Do don’t you oppose “honour killings”.

        (7) You support discrimination against homosexuals?

        (8) You support child marriage?

        Congratulations. You have become so liberal accepting other cultures that you have come out the other side and turned into a right wing fascist!

        Way to go!!!

      • Nips Are Great said

        Feel good?

        Think you’re informed?

        Enjoy twisting my words?

        Think that your predictable knee-jerk response of frothing-at-the-mouth hatred is convincing?

        I don’t suppose you’ve read the Koran.

        Enjoy your cartoon.

      • Scoobydo said

        “You need to provide me with more articles of hatred.”

        I can point you in the direction of a whole book which is largely hatred.

        The Koran.

        Overall, 14% of the Koran is devoted to violent Jihad against non Muslims.

        Murder, rape, enslavement. That sort of thing.

        Muhammad himself ordered the beheading of 800 Jews after they were taken prisoner and used to keep many female prisoners captured in war as sex slaves. He also ordered people to be burned to death for not coming to prayer. He was also an accomplished Jihadist himself having directly taken part or planned about 100 jihads (I would need to look up one of my books to get the exact number).

        Remember that Muhammad led the ‘perfect life’ meaning that under Islamic doctrine, if a Muslim wants to be a perfect Muslim, he should try to emulate Muhammad’s deeds.

        Like waging violent Jihad, burning people for not coming to prayer, beheading Jews and making females captured during jihad into sex slaves.

        64% of the Koran is devoted to the ‘Kafir’, mostly how they will burn in hell because they aren’t Muslims.

        However much of it is less ‘benign’ and instructs Muslims in how to deal with non-Muslims. For instance

        60:1 Don’t be friends with disbelievers. They are your (and Allah’s) enemy.

        4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.

        63:4 Disbelievers are perverted. They are the enemy, confounded by Allah.

        5:80 If a Muslim is friends with a non-Muslim, Allah has prepared a terrible doom

        6. Non Muslims are guilty, evil, wicked, evil-livers, who have diseased hearts and are not to be trusted

        5:51 Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

        9:107 Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars.

        16:39 Disbelievers are liars.

        3:73 Don’t believe anyone who is not a Muslim.

        5:45 Non-Muslims are wrong doers.

        There are literally hundreds and hundreds of verses like the above in the Koran.

        http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

        I worked it out once that there is something like 4 negative verses about non Muslims on every page of the Koran. On every page!

        You really should crack a copy open. You might learn something.

        The big problem of course is that Islam is still stuck in the 8th century. Muslims are supposed to take these passages literally. But of course most Muslims don’t read even read the Koran or take their religion very seriously.

        Some do however and that is why it is so easy to radicalise young devout Muslims very quickly.

        Just get them to read the Koran!

      • 0112337 said

        Dear Nippity-Nip Nip,

        You forgot one more, I can also be an American of European descent, playing with all of you.

        Hahahahahahahahaha………

      • Nips Are Great said

        Hey, that’s great and everything.

        Your hatred and zeal is very impressive.

        But I’m still not convinced.

        I’m especially interested in the number of jihads The Prophet Mohammed took part in and where they were (or about). Could you check that?

        “He was also an accomplished Jihadist himself having directly taken part or planned about 100 jihads (I would need to look up one of my books to get the exact number).”

        Admittedly I read the Koran in the late 80s – a long time ago. I didn’t get through the whole thing. I don’t know how it happened but I somehow missed those passages that you quoted – I’m sure they would’ve stuck out like a sore thumb. And when I read it I didn’t notice that the chapters and lines in it were numbered. Maybe I read a different copy than yours. Mine was a Penguin Classic edition and had on its front cover a beautiful mosaic that I think was from Egypt.

        And the chapters had titles. The first of course was The Exordium – one page. And I think the second was called The Cow, maybe not, I really can’t remember. Later on there was one called On Money I think. I don’t have my copy of the Koran with me here in commiechinkistan as I don’t keep any holy books at home that might get me into trouble if there’s a knock in the middle of the night type-of-deal. I even insisted on my room-mate tossing the Chinese version of the Bible.

        I remember the reason why I didn’t finish reading it was because the chapters got progressively longer and I suppose the novelty wore off, maybe because I discovered the joy of mushrooms at the time.

        Your prose needs a lot of work.

        And you’ve yet to produce something subtle. It’s true there’s nothing subtle about hatred. But there’s definitely room for improvement.

        And more stats?

        And how about the number of jihads The Prophet participated in and where.

      • Minderwertigkeitskomplex said

        Nips Are Great: You are overloading 0112337’s little chinese/black/alien brain. Keep it very very simple, keep it in chinglish and he will be just fine. Let’s handle people with an inferiority complex and a small dick right. There are at least 1300 million of them, but we can start with 0112337 firstly.

      • 0112337 said

        hahaha, inferiority complex and alien eh? That’s very funny. Yeah, why don’t you write to me in Chinglish German.

        I actually don’t particularly care because, like I said, I come here to relax and don’t pay much attention to what any of you write to me.

        But I have to say, this Mylaowai does know a lot. If I were him, I would write a book.

      • MyLaowai said

        Already have.

      • 0112337 said

        Kunta Kintay, Oh dear nippity nip nip? You read? Really…?

      • 0112337 said

        Mylaowai, I think your book will sell for a lot of money in the Western world, especially now, as it will ride on the envy, laziness, hysteria, and consequent economic helplessness felt by many Westerners.

        It will be a gold mine business opportunity. You should do it.

    • Cheese said

      You sick idiot. Who are you? I don’t care. But I know what you need: Regular shitting and a pussy. You won’t find it here. No way! Wake up. Get the hell out of here you sick fuck and stick your miserable arabian google translation into the dry pussy and hairy ass of your wife (or your Momma’s one if you prefer it).

    • Scoobydo said

      “Feel good?

      Think you’re informed?

      Enjoy twisting my words?

      Think that your predictable knee-jerk response of frothing-at-the-mouth hatred is convincing?”

      So in other words, you have no reply?

      You may be interested to know:

      The Pew report in 2006 found that

      81% of British Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and British second.

      Only 7% thought of themselves as British first.

      http://pewglobal.org/2006/08/10/in-great-britain-muslims-worry-about-islamic-extremism/

      Survey on what British Muslim students believe.

      40% want Sharia law introduced into British Law for Muslims.

      33% want the introduction of a worldwide Caliph, while 25% are opposed. 41% are not sure.

      59% felt it was important that women wear the hijab but only 31% felt a women should be forced to wear one.

      40% felt than men and women should not be allowed to associate freely together, while 12% were not sure.

      32% felt it could be justifiable to kill in the name of religion.

      57% fell that Muslims serving on the UK armed forces should have the right to opt out if the British army is fighting in a Muslim country.

      http://today.yougov.co.uk/sites/today.yougov.co.uk/files/YG-Archives-lif-csc-StudentSurveyIslam%20-080729.pdf

      Support in European countries for banning the Burqa.

      Britain in 2006 – 29%
      Britain in 2010 – 62%

      Spain in 2006 – 43%
      Spain in 2010 – 59%

      France in 2006 – 78%
      France in 2010 – 82%

      Germany in 2006 – 54%
      Germany in 2010 – 71%

      http://pewresearch.org/pubs/95/europeans-debate-the-scarf-and-the-veil

      It looks as if European attitudes to Islam are stiffening.

      Not like you old chap. You are so busy pretending that some people ‘just happen to be Muslim’ that you are blind to the fact that Muslim extremists can control ‘moderate’ Muslims through religion and fear. Not that the moderates are all that moderate.

      You aren’t part of that Muslim nexus.

      Or are you?

      • Nips Are Great said

        You’re hatred is impressive.

        You are not.

        I’m still not convinced.

        Can you give me more statistics.

        Really.

      • Scoobydo said

        [b]”You’re hatred is impressive.

        I’m still not convinced.”[/b]

        Yet, if I was anti Christian, I suspect you have no problem with that.

        Being anti a religion that engages in suicide bombings to achieve political ends, honour killings, child marriage, treating women as property and mandating the death penalty for leaving it appears however to be beyond the pale in your opinion?

        Work that one out.

        The twisted mind of a liberal who supports religious fascism in the name of freedom.

        You Talk of hatred. Perhaps you are looking in the wrong places.

        [b]Are you aware that the Wiesenthal Center now warns Jews not to travel to Sweden due to Muslim immigrant persecution?[/b]

        [b]Wiesenthal Center Warns Jews not to travel to Sweden[/b]

        While screaming “Sieg Heil” and “Hitler, Hitler” in 2009, a violent mob of Swedish Muslims launched bottles and stones at a pro-Israel demonstration attended by a small number of Jews in the central square of Malmö. Media reports have documented widespread harassment of Jews and Jewish children have routinely been called “dirty Jews.”

        http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=199629

        [b] Are you aware that Jews have been advised to leave Holland, by an ex-EU commissioner, to escape persecution by Moroccan Muslims?[/b]

        [b]Orthodox Jews should leave Holland because of anti-Semitism: Bolkestein (ex-EU commissioner)[/b]

        Jews should consider leaving the Netherlands and going to America or Israel because of anti Semitism, particularly among Dutch Moroccans, former VVD leader Frits Bolkestein told free newspaper De Pers.

        Bolkestein said he sees no future in the Netherlands for Jews who stand out, such as orthodox Jews. Arabic tv senders are largely to blame for the anti-Jewish sentiment, the former EU commissioner said.

        http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/12/orthodox_jews_should_leave_hol.php

        [b]Can you give me more statistics.[/b]

        Gladly.

        (1) In respect of the Danish cartoon controversy, 73% of British Muslims feel that the cause for the controversy is Western disrespect (9% feel it is Muslim intolerance).

        (2) [b]Is there a conflict being a devout Muslim and living in a Western society?

        54% of British Muslims feels that there is [/b] while 35% see no conflict.

        (3) In response to the question, [b] How do British Muslims see Westerners?

        67% describe Westerns as selfish, 64% as arrogant and 52% as violent.[/b]

        [b] British non-Muslims on the other hand describe Muslims as fanatical 48%, as violent 32% and as arrogant 35%.[/b]

        http://pewglobal.org/2006/06/22/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/3/

        Let’s leave the last word to topical man of the moment – [b] Colonel Gaddafi of Libya [/b]

        “There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without sword, without gun, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists; we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50 plus million Muslims (in Europe) will turn it into the Muslim Continent within a few decades.”

        – Colonel Gaddafi of Libya

        [b] Luckily, Europe has largely woken up to the Islamic threat.

        You on the other hand appear to be asleep at the wheel![/b]

      • Nips Are Great said

        You’re a cartoon character.

        And not convincing.

        And you assume too much.

        I’m not anti-Christian. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Muslim. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Buddhist. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Hindu. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Harichrishna. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Nip. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-American. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Brit. Commies are.

        I’m not anti-Frog/Carrefour. Commies are.

        I’m anti-chinkycommie.

        You sound rather rabid. Frothing at the mouth Scoobydo cartoon character.

        You need to provide me with more stats.

        You need to provide me with more articles of hatred.

        And a more nuanced argument.

      • Little yellow runts everywhere said

        Dig dig poke nip……….

  3. Nips Are Great said

    Any success for the good guys guys is a type of failure for the CCP.

    Yes, they’ll put some sort of curious spin on it for the local monkeys.

  4. Scoobydo said

    “Hey, that’s great and everything. But I’m still not convinced.”

    Here is a partial list of Muhammad’s Jihads for you

    He personally took part in about 28 violent jihads and was involved in planning about 80 in total.

    570 – Born in Mecca
    623 – Orders raids on Meccan caravans
    624 – Battle of Badr (victory)
    624 – Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
    624 – Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
    624 – Orders the assassination of Asma bint Marwan
    624 – Orders the assassination of Ka’b al-Ashraf
    625 – Battle of Uhud (defeat)
    625 – Evicts Nadir Jews
    627 – Battle of the Trench (victory)
    627 – Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
    628 – Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
    629 – Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
    630 – Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
    631 – Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
    632 – Dies.

    Perhaps the most notorious jihad that Muhammad was directly involved in was the beheading of 800 male Jews of the Banu Qurayza in 627.

    The Koran itself refers to the murder of the Jews (suwar 33:26 & 33:27).

    33:26 He also brought down their allies among the people of the scripture from their secure positions, and threw terror into their hearts. Some of them you killed, and some you took captive.

    33:27 He made you inherit their land, their homes, their money, and lands you had never stepped on. God is in full control of all things.

    Note that the above source is the authorized translation of the Koran.

    http://www.submission.org/suras/sura33.html

    For a better explanation of what the Suras refer to, please see

    http://www.quranexplained.co.uk/sura33.htm

    33:26 Those People of the Scripture who allied with the clans (despite having a treaty with you), have been taken out from their forts and strongholds, and panic has struck their hearts. Some of them were killed in the battle and others were taken prisoners of war. (The Jewish tribe, Bani Quraizah had violated the treaty, although another Jewish tribe, Bani Nadir of Khyber had also been among the confederates).

    A much more comprehensive explanation is that of Ibn Ishaq.

    Ibn Ishaq was a devout Muslim historian and was the author of the first biography about Muhammad – Sirat Rasul Allah – “Life of God’s Messenger” in 768 AD. He provided details about the episode mentioned in sura 33:26 & 33:27.

    http://www.archive.org/details/Sirat-lifeOfMuhammadBy-ibnIshaq

    From page 84 & 85 of Ibn Ishaq’s autobiography about Muhammad

    “The apostle of Allah imprisoned the Qurayza in Medina while trenches were dug in the market-place. Then he sent for the men and had their heads struck off so that they fell in the trenches. They were brought out in groups, and among them was Kab, the chief of the tribe. In number, they amounted to six or seven hundred, although some state it to have been eight or nine hundred. All were executed. One man turned to his people and said, ‘It matters not! By God’s will, the children of Israel were destined for this massacre!’ Then he seated himself and his head was struck off…

    …Now the apostle distributed the property of the Banu Qurayza, as well as their women and children, to the Muslims, reserving one-fifth for himself . Every horseman received three shares, one for himself and two for his steed, and every foot soldier one share. There were thirty-six horses present on the day of the Qurayza. The apostle dispatched an emissary to Najd with the prisoners, to barter them as slaves in exchange for horses and camels. The apostle of Allah selected one of the Jewish women, Rayhana, for himself, and she remained with him as his slave until she died . He had suggested marriage to her, that she should wear the veil (to separate her from all other persons, as his wives did), but she replied, ‘Rather allow me to remain thy slave; it will be more easy for me, and for thee.'”

    “And you’ve yet to produce something subtle.”

    There is nothing subtle about Islamic fundamentalism or the violent deeds of Muhammad. A man of peace he was not. Rather he was a violent warlord.

    “Your hatred and zeal is very impressive.”

    If telling the truth amounts to zeal and hatred, perhaps George Orwell had it right

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”

    If you want to find the passage about Mohammed burning people for not praying

    Bukhari (11:626) – “The Prophet said, ‘No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the ‘Isha’ prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.’ The Prophet added, ‘Certainly I decided to order the Mu’adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'”

    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/011.sbt.html#001.011.626

  5. Scoobydo said

    “I don’t know how it happened but I somehow missed those passages that you quoted – I’m sure they would’ve stuck out like a sore thumb.

    I remember the reason why I didn’t finish reading it was because the chapters got progressively longer and I suppose the novelty wore off, maybe because I discovered the joy of mushrooms at the time.”

    Ah. That now makes sense.

    The start of the Koran (the first 64%) was written by Mohammed in Mecca, when he was at first relatively powerless. As the Koran progresses and Mohammed became more and more powerful the tone of the Koran changes.

    It’s especially in the last 36% of the Koran, written in Medina, when he was a fully fledged warlord, where he shows his very violent side.

    This link has analysed the Koran statistically:-

    http://www.politicalislam.com/downloads/Statistical-Islam.pdf

    “Your prose needs a lot of work.”

    Too much academic writing and not enough proofreading, I’m afraid.

    I’m puzzled however that you managed to understand the Koran at all without reading it in conjunction with the 2 other Islamic holy books:- the Hadith & Sira.

    The Koran is pretty much impenetrable without those 2 sources explaining what the Koran is talking about – more like disjointed verses of poetry than a narrative.

    I can see perhaps why the violent bits passed you by. They are nearer the end of the Koran and their meaning often only becomes apparent with the Sacred Hadith & Sira filling out the details.

  6. Scoobydo said

    Some examples of the actions of people who ‘just happen to be’ Muslims from the last 12 – 18 months…

    The links below are literally just the tip of the iceberg.

    For instance, successful jihad attacks (sometimes killing only one or two people, sometimes killing hundreds) average out at just under 5 a day, while many more are stopped by the security forces, especially in the West.

    Such attacks are greatly under reported by the Western press, for whatever reason.

    To give you an idea of the scale of successful Jihad attacks around the world in the last 16 months, follow the following 2 links.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2010.htm
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2011.htm

    The following include a small selection of Islamic intolerance and successful and unsuccessful Jihad around the globe. Bear in mind its just the tip of the iceberg.

    Egypt: Bombing of Church in Alexandria: 21 dead, 97 wounded

    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/01/03/scratching-the-surface-of-the-egypt-attack/

    UK: Christmas bomb plot: nine men remanded over plan to ‘blow up Big Ben and Westminster Abbey’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8227193/Christmas-bomb-plot-nine-men-remanded-over-plan-to-blow-up-Big-Ben-and-Westminster-Abbey.html

    EU parliament: Pakistan blasphemy laws used to justify ‘murder’

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h5gdiMztr7yvkNa2KoHeTYpUET3w

    Nigeria: Muslim Massacres of Christians

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.8280/pub_detail.asp

    Time Magazine: Christians Under Siege in the Muslim World

    http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2040755,00.html

    Australia: Islamist fanatics plotted Australia’s worst terrorist attack on army base

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8221279/Islamist-fanatics-plotted-Australias-worst-terrorist-attack-on-army-base.html

    India: Alleging blasphemy, fanatics hack lecturer’s hand

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Alleging-blasphemy-fanatics-hack-lecturers-hand/articleshow/6129146.cms

    Denmark: Cartoon Rage in Denmark

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/12/30/cartoon-rage-in-denmark/

    Pakistan: Cleric Ups Offer to $6000 for Killing Christian Woman

    http://www.bosnewslife.com/14741-news-alert-muslim-protests-as-cleric-offers-thousands-for-killing-christian

    USA: At least 30 Islamic terror plots against U.S. foiled since 9/11

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/at-least-30-islamic-terror-plots-against-u-s-foiled-since-911-eleven-in-nyc-video/

    Baluchistan: Islamists slaughtering teachers who teach children of both sexes in violation of Sharia

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Baluchistan:-Islamists-slaughtering-teachers-20247.html

    UK: British Muslims ‘providing Taliban with electronic devices for roadside bombs’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/4736032/British-Muslims-providing-Taliban-with-electronic-devices-for-roadside-bombs.html

    Thailand: 134th teacher assassinated by Muslim terrorists in Thailand

    http://undhimmi.com/2010/09/22/thai-muslim-terrorists-target-teachers-and-children-hrw-blame-thai-govt/

    Sudan: Women are punished with ‘600,000’ lashes a year

    http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English/Security/Sudan-Women-are-punished-with-600000-lashes-a-year_311412156575.html

    Pakistan: Pakistan evangelist set on fire by Muslim extremists

    http://theundergroundsite.com/index.php/2010/12/pakistan-evangelist-set-on-fire-by-muslim-extremists-14893

    UK: Harry Potter star ‘beaten after meeting non-Muslim man’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harry-potter/8214522/Harry-Potter-star-beaten-after-meeting-non-Muslim-man.html

    Egypt: Attacks on Christians Intensify

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=240013

    Morocco: expelled Christians ‘to prevent conflict’

    http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE64K0AT20100521

    Australia: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-51264420100903

    Philippines: Islamists Bomb Philippines Church on Christmas Day

    http://undhimmi.com/2010/12/25/a-gift-from-islam-six-hurt-in-philippines-christmas-day-church-bombing/

    Pakistan governor assassinated over blasphemy laws campaign

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8238948/Pakistan-governor-assassinated-over-blasphemy-laws-campaign.html

    Pakistan: Leader of Pakistani Political Party Claims Assassin Will Go Straight to Heaven

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=23953&Cat=4

    Morocco: Convert Serving 15 Years for His Faith

    http://continentalnews.net/christian-news/moroccan-convert-serving-15-years-for-his-faith-2698.html

    UK: The Taliban troop with an east London cab driver in its ranks

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/24/the-taliban-troop-london-jihadists

    Nigeria: Christmas Eve explosions kill 32 people in Nigeria after two churches are targeted

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341530/Christmas-Eve-explosions-kill-32-people-Nigeria-churches-targeted.html

    Algerian Christians to appeal conviction for worshipping

    http://au.christiantoday.com/article/algerian-christians-to-appeal-conviction-for-worshipping/9813.htm

    Indonesia Foils Plot to Bomb Catholic Worshippers

    http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1449568&lang=eng_news&cate_img=1037.jpg&cate_rss=General

    UK: Eight Britons ‘trained in Pakistan for European terror strikes’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318705/Eight-Britons-trained-Pakistan-European-terror-strikes.html

    Jordan: Islamists Criticize “Propagation of Buddhism” in Jordan

    http://en.ammonnews.net/article.aspx?articleNO=10987

    Iran: Pastor to Hang for Apostasy in Iran

    http://www.worthynews.com/9786-iran-court-pastor-to-be-executed-by-hanging

    UAE: Bangladeshi man lashed 100 times for having sex with Filipina maid in the UAE

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332591/Bangladeshi-man-lashed-100-times-having-sex-Filipina-maid-UAE.html

    Egypt: Mob burns Christian homes

    http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.1.1260341689

    Indonesia: American on Trial for Insulting Islam

    http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/witnesses-defend-alleged-blasphemer-in-lombok/406830

    Algeria: Christians tried for breaking Ramadan fast

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/22/3018315.htm?section=justin

    Ethiopian Christian Stabbed For Leaving Islam

    http://www.worthynews.com/9396-ethiopian-christian-stabbed-for-leaving-islam

    UAE: Men ALLOWED to beat their wives and young children (as long as they don’t leave any marks), rules UAE court

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321504/UAEs-highest-court-rules-men-beat-wives-long-leave-marks.html#ixzz12jfoR64c

    Kuwait Seeks Interpol Arrest for Insulting Prophet’s Wife

    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/09/23/120095.html

    Syria: Eight Churches Shut Down

    http://www.worthynews.com/9491-eight-churches-shut-down-in-syria

    Indonesia: Women caned for selling food during Ramadan

    http://www.mysinchew.com/node/45814

    Norway: terror plot ‘targeted Danish paper’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/8029983/Norway-terror-plot-targeted-Danish-paper.html

    Germany: US drone strike kills five ‘German militants’ in Pakistan

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8042774/US-drone-strike-kills-five-German-militants-in-Pakistan.html

    Still think Islam is just another religion?

    • Nips Are Great said

      “Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation, or creed.” – Bertrand Russel.

      You obviously don’t know anything about Islam.

      You’re a poser/cartoon character and your posts are a reflection of that.

      No matter how long your poorly written posts of hatred are, or how many sources (dubious or borderline dubious), or statistics (easy to manipulate) you list, you are not convincing – froth at the mouth all you want.

      Islam is just another religion that happens to be like many others, it has some unhappy people in it.

      Those unhappy people represent a miniscule percentage of mainstream/ordinary Muslims.

      And the recent events which have taken place in North Africa and the Middle East are testament to the moderates in the Islamic world who are interested in ideas like liberty, fraternity, and equality – a rejection of the extremists.

      And you may note that one of B. Obama’s early speeches in his presidency was at a university in Cairo. His speech was, essentially, a reminder to the Islamic youth in the region (’cause you can bet everybody was watching) that they also have to be responsible for peace and development. That they cannot let the minority of extremists ruin/degrade the noble faith of Islam and the region in which they live. And B. Obama repeatedly quoted the Koran in his speech, funny he missed the shite you spew.

      Undoubtedly after years have passed and the history books of the current events in the Middle East and North Africa is written most will have a chapter on Pres. Obama’s historic speech in Cairo.

      And in occupied East Turkestan Muslims are simply trying to regain what once was theirs, their country currently occupied by the commie Chinese. In fact the CCP’s uncompromising attitude toward Islam (and other religions) is causing them problems in their occupied territory – yet another reason why the CCP will never be a Great World Power (and the same reason why your are weak character). The CCP will only be a regional bully and you…

      Wannbe intellectuals like yourself might sound convincing in the local pub talking with unthinking curs who swill pint after pint. Congratulations. They listen to you and bitch about something they couldn’t spell and would be lucky to point out on an unmarked map. They blame all but themselves for their dreadfully unhappy existence and you get your ego massaged.

      Islam is here to stay.

      You would do best to find a compromise with the moderates and let them take care of the extremists.

      Go back to watching your favourite cartoon.

    • Scoobydo said

      “You obviously don’t know anything about Islam.”

      Yet I have proved that I have a far deeper knowledge of the Koran, Hadith and Sira, while you appear to have not even known that the Hadith and Sira even existed!

      Some expert you are!

      “Islam is just another religion that happens to be like many others, it has some unhappy people in it.”

      So apart from…

      Muslims blowing up trains and buses in the UK, trying to blow up Big Ben, plotting to attack UK nuclear power plants, blowing up churches in Egypt, massacring Christians in Nigeria, trying to blow up army bases in Australia, executing Christians for blasphemy in Pakistan, assassinating the last Christian on the Pakistani cabinet for opposing the blasphemy law, plotting in the USA to blow up aircraft and blow up dirty bombs, planning to blow up the Brooklyn bridge, plotting to blow up an Ohio shopping mall, conspiring to blow up the NY stock exchange and subway, trying to buy a grenade launcher to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat in the US, planning to attack Californian synagogues, attempting to blow up the US transcontinental pipeline, conspiring to assassinate George Bush, planning to blow up the Capitol building, the World Bank, the Sears Tower in Chicago, FBI buildings and the JFK airport, planning to blow up synagogues in NY and shoot down airliners with hand held SAMs, trying to plant bombs in Dallas skyscrapers, murdering teachers in Baluchistan for teaching girls, assassinating 134 teachers in Thailand, administering 600,000 lashes a year to women in Sudan for contriving Islamic law, expelling Christians and imprisoning people who leave Islam to 15 years imprisonment in Morocco, bombing churches in the Philippines, convicting Christians for worshiping in Algeria, hanging converts to Christianity in Iran, Muslim mobs burning Christian homes in Egypt, convicting an American for insulting Islam in Indonesia (he pulled the speakers out in a Mosque because he couldn’t sleep), stabbing people for leaving Islam in Ethiopia, trying to blow up newspaper in Norway and 70 Germans and an untold number of British Muslims fighting for the Taliban,

      …they are just another religion with some unhappy people in it?

      You recon?

      And that’s just the tip of the iceberg!

      “Those unhappy people represent a miniscule percentage of mainstream/ordinary Muslims.”

      In the one week period from April 30 to May 6, Islam carried out 37 Jihad attacks, killing 161 people and maiming 302.

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      For such a ‘miniscule percentage’ of ordinary Muslims, they certainly seem to get a lot done.

      How many other relgions murder on average about 9,000 people a year and critically injure another 15,000?

      As you say ‘Islam is here to stay’.

      Coming soon to a place near you…

      “Islam is here to stay. You would do best to find a compromise with the moderates and let them take care of the extremists.”

      I’m glad that you brought this up.

      Peter King, the head of the US Congress house committee on homeland security has claimed that law enforcement agencies have received little co-operation from US Muslim communities.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8225586/US-home-grown-terrorists-a-global-threat-warns-congresswoman.html

      He has also charged that the Muslim community hasn’t done enough to prevent radicalization from taking hold.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/09/earlyshow/main20041017.shtml

      So waiting for the moderate Muslims to sort it out themselves (or even to co-operate with law enforcement officials) appears to have been a failure.

      (1) More worrying, Leading US Sunni Muslim, Shaykh Kabbani, (founder of the Sufi Mulsim Council) has alleged that that 80 percent of US mosques are being run by “extremist ideologies”.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hisham_Kabbani

      (2) While the NY police department has issued a report that Wahhabi mosques serve as incubators for “home-grown” terrorism and that NY Muslim community has been infiltrated by Muslim extremists.

      http://www.nypdshield.org/public/SiteFiles/documents/NYPD_Report-Radicalization_in_the_West.pdf

      (3) Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky confirmed that 80% of the mosques in the USA “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.”

      http://www.ajc.org/site/c.ijITI2PHKoG/b.817197/k.2F47/AJC_Experts.htm

      So it would appear that your solution of allowing the moderates to take care of the extremists has been a failure.

      But don’t take my word for it. Ask the head of Congress house committee on homeland security, The NY police department, and the founder of the Sufi Muslim Council.

      You may be interested to know that the Saudis have admitted investing $87 Billion in the spread of Wahhibism in the West (the Islamic sect that thinks everyone should be forced to live like Muhammad in the 7th century and from which springs 99% of the terrorists).

      That new Mosque getting built near you?

      The money almost certainly comes from Saudi Wahhabi sources.

      The Islamic Wahhibi fundamentalists who believe in violent Jihad to force everyone to live under 8th century Islamic law, are just an added bonus.

      Of course, no doubt you think that you know much more about Islam and Islamic fundamentalism than I do.

      Having read the start of the Koran in the 1980s (but never finishing it) before dropping some mushrooms makes you an expert.

      In your own mind anyway.

      “Wannbe intellectuals like yourself might sound convincing in the local pub talking with unthinking curs who swill pint after pint.”

      Yet I cite passages from the Koran and links proving the extent of Islamic terrorism, while you merely engage in ad hominem attacks.

      But it would appear that, in your mind, this isn’t about facts.

      In your mind, it appears to be about who is the most intellectual.

      I’m glad you take yourself so seriously but I am finding it hard to do so!

      • MyLaowai said

        Whilst I am, in general, happy to let people get on and say their thing without interruption from me, I really do feel that this needs something said:

        He has also charged that the Muslim community hasn’t done enough to prevent radicalization from taking hold.

        It is neither the job, nor the responsibility, of any community to rein in the extreme elements. That’s why we have the police, intelligence agencies, and a legal system.

        It can of course reasonably be expected to be the case that the behaviour of extreme elements is often, indeed, modified in the presence of a moderate, educated, politically free and economically well-off society. And for that matter, extremism is far less likely to arise in those conditions. Further, when looking at the larger picture, one can see many examples of moderate communities exporting their values to other regions. This applies (as does the previous quoted sentence) to Muslim communities, as it does to Christian communities. And Hindu communities. And black, and white, and Russian, and French, and Taiwanese, and pretty much all communities.

        And… Whilst I am quite deliberately not taking a position in your discussion, I do believe that people often choose to ignore the longer-term, wider-view in favour of short-term, blinkered and dogmatic responses that in fact run contrary to their own best interests.

      • Scoobydo said

        “It is neither the job, nor the responsibility, of any community to rein in the extreme elements. That’s why we have the police, intelligence agencies, and a legal system.”

        If Polish immigrants in the UK were planning/carrying out terrorist acts in the name of Poland, with a view to Poland dominating the UK, few British people would feel that Polish immigrants didn’t have a responsibility, at the very least, to rein in their extreme elements.

        If those Polish immigrants were making little to no efforts to aid the law enforcement agencies in identifying Polish extremists, then British people at large could draw their own conclusions.

        Still, perhaps you are right. Perhaps Muslim immigrants do have no responsibility to aid the law enforcement agencies in identifying Muslim extremists who wish to murder British people.

      • MyLaowai said

        Still, perhaps you are right. Perhaps Muslim immigrants do have no responsibility to aid the law enforcement agencies in identifying Muslim extremists who wish to murder British people.

        They have precisely the same responsibilities as the Christian community do to aid law enforcement agencies in identifying Christian extremists who wish to murder British people. They have the responsibilities of all British citizens. And the rights of all British citizens. Keep that in mind, because it is important.

        But this is, surely, not turning into yet another anti-immigration thing?

      • Scoobydo said

        They have precisely the same responsibilities as the Christian community do to aid law enforcement agencies in identifying Christian extremists who wish to murder British people.

        Exactly. Muslims have a moral duty to aid law enforcement agencies in identifying extremists who wish to murder British people.

        To the best of my knowledge, Christian extremists who wish to murder British people are pretty thin on the ground. They are about as common as the dodo.

        UK Muslims who wish to murder British people however are much thicker on the ground.

        For instance, the UK Muslims Against Crusades are now reporting that Price Harry and Price William are targets to avenge the death of Bin Laden.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384790/Prince-Harry-targeted-extremists.html

        But this is, surely, not turning into yet another anti-immigration thing?

        I would prefer that Muslims who wish to murder Western people (including members of the British royal family) in the name of Islam didn’t immigrate to the West.

        I would also prefer that Muslims who don’t share Western values would also not immigrate to the West.

        People such as these:-

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384353/Osama-bin-Laden-mock-funeral-Fury-erupts-outside-US-Embassy-London.html

        It’s about culture, not race.

        That is why the PM of the UK, the President of France and the Chancellor of Germany have all said that multiculturalism is dead.

        This cultural issue is no trifling matter.

        For instance, Muhammad made it clear that the penalty for homosexuality was death.

        (Book #38, Hadith #4447)

        http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/abudawud/038.sat.html

        Here is a video apparently showing 5 suspected homosexuals being hung in Pakistan.

        http://www.mentalzero.com/5-Suspected-Homosexual-Men-Hung-in-Pakistan-3446.html

        The UK has about 1 million Pakistani immigrants.

        When 500 British Muslims were interviewed, none believed that homosexual acts were acceptable.

        Also worrying, only 3% of UK Muslims believed that sex between unmarried people was acceptable.

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

        The Koran is clear that sex between unmarried people is prohibited.

        http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/017.qmt.html#017.032

        http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/025.qmt.html#025.068

        The penalty for fornicating outside marriage is 100 lashes.

        http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/024.qmt.html#024.002

        Muslims are merely following the dictates of their religion when they show zero tolerance to homosexuality and near zero tolerance for sex outside marriage.

        The penalty for homosexual acts is death, according to Muhammad in the hadith and, 100 lashes for sex outside of marriage according to Allah in the Koran.

      • 0112337 said

        It’s interesting to read some of your debates here sometimes. Why do I find it funny? Well, because that’s what my friends and I did when we were in high school or college. We debated on anything and tried to find data.

        But then we entered the real world, found jobs and had families. It was at that point that we realized everything else was bullshit, only money and self interest mattered.

        It’s refreshing to see grown men and women here debating one another like middle school boys and girls. So nostalgic….

        I wished America could also have a socialist system, so we can have as much leisure as you, and get rewarded for being lazy.

        Maybe then, we can spend entire afternoons sipping cappuccinos, sitting lazily under the sun, and debating random, useless crap, and still complain about economic woes like you.

      • Nips Are Great said

        The only things you have proved is your penchant for spreading hatred and your skill at cutting and pasting.

      • S said

        Nips,

        “The only things you have proved is your penchant for spreading hatred ..”

        Could you please cut and paste your past comments to prove that you are here to spread the words of love, peace and harmony ?

      • 0112337 said

        Nips, I wouldn’t say that I am a very smart person, however, I can tell you that my posts here are largely my original thoughts. They may have overlapped with other people’s thoughts, which I do not know. I tend to philosophize when I am bored, or stressed out, or trying to relax, and sometimes, I make interesting discoveries.

        Did you think my posts here seem too much for the common person? Come to the United States (especially the East Coast) and interact with the educated intelligentsia here, and you will be surprised by how much they actually know. I am a product of my education, one that trains the student to think, for good or bad, no more, no less.

        The United States is a country of extremes. There are the really poor people here who are illiterate and superstitious, and then there are people like my friends and I who were lucky enough to have had a really good introductory education through the Soviet model and the luck to have had a decent higher education at a decent school in the United States, which emphasized liberal, critical, and philosophical, thinking.

        In regards to your comment about spreading hatred, tell me, what are you and the rest of the Laowais doing here? Are you so childish to think that it is okay to be critical yourself and to spread hatred against other people, but it is not okay when the same is done onto you?

        I think that is called hypocrisy. But the most fundamental problem is a psychological one, it is that you believe you are somehow better than the people around you. And this psychological problem is further aggravated by their politeness which you take as a sign of inferiority complex or sycophancy. It allows you to think that it is okay to be a hypocrite and to have double standards. Do you think such thoughts are fundamentally right? Don’t you think it reflects your own stupidity?

        Now, of course, you can make the petty argument of saying, look, us Westerners gave the Chinese people so much help, to change their backward ways, and now, not only do they seem ungrateful, they are talking about biting the hand that fed them. But consider this, the Chinese also gave you the compass, paper, and printing press, all of which were crucial to your creation of the modern world. Try to see all of this (even the evil acts of your enemies) as a human phenomenon, one which is by itself beautiful in its complexity. I recommend that instead of mocking the poor, uneducated people around you, understand why they behave the way they do, and how they can be changed. When you can do that, you would no longer hate, and you would have reached a new level.

  7. Minderwertigkeitskomplex said

    Well said Scoobydo. I agree with you and thank you. We are not against Islam. Everyone can choose his religion freely and we will respect it! What what we don’t like in Europe (I am European) and elsewhere are fanatics who try to impose their belief on others with violence, bombing and murder. Live the way you want, dear Muslim friends. We respect it but we don’t like those Obama’s and a Mosque in our backyard. We don’t want it, ok? Respect it.

  8. 0112337 said

    Here is a thought.

    1. Assume God wants to make a burrito.
    2. Assume God wants to eat this burrito.

    Then, can God create a burrito so hot, that He/She/It can not eat it?

    • Minderwertigkeitskomplex said

      My dick is longer than your one. Believe me. Your wife needs a real man not a little nothing like you. Get the fuck out of here and take your burritos with you. They smell.

      • 0112337 said

        Your dick is shorter than my horse’s. Believe me. Your wife/girlfriend needs my real horse, not a little mindless animal “want-to-be”, like you. Get the fuck out of your stupidity, think, and take your insults with you. They stupid!

        You gave me a wrong answer, inferiority complex. Try again.

      • 0112337 said

        By the way, I think I will call you “horse penis envy complex” from now on. I think it is fitting. What do you think?

        It’s a form of inferiority complex and also a form of psychological disorder too, if I am not wrong.

        We can slowly move on to “elephant penis envy complex”, if your disorder gets more serious.

  9. Little yellow runts everywhere said

    Dear 0112337, did Minderwertigkeitskomplex it a nerve? Who has the inferiority complex? You are humorous but not so clever! Are you compensating for something you don’t have?

    • 0112337 said

      Did I sound angry? Really? I was bothered by his stupidity, nothing else. See, horse penis envy complex’s psychological disorder is precisely what is wrong with our world today.

      Go back 60 years, when men didn’t grind women, like monkeys, on the dance floor, and women didn’t dress like jungle whores, when there was still honor, manners, and a sense of propriety, do you think a man will openly flaunt his penis size as an insult to another man? There’s something ironically humorous and curiously bizarre here if you think about it.

      I don’t know if it is me, maybe I am old fashioned, but when he said that, I envisioned something out of a nature TV program, where the spotted alpha male hyena paraded around the pack with its fully erected phallus, proudly foaming at the mouth, howling, and signaling its dominance based on its rigid, flipping tool…or something of the sort.

      As humans, aren’t we supposed to be more advanced? Like a woman should look more in a man than mere animalism and a man should look for something deeper in a woman than simply breast size and the length of her legs…etc. This was the norm 60 years ago, yet today, as we become more and more technologically and scientifically advanced, we have retrogressed. Love is about sex, and sex is love. You Europeans have sex when you are happy, and do it as casually as drinking water. You DON’T think there’s something wrong and animalistic there? Observe your rabbits, if you can get some. Feed them lots of food, and watch what they do when they get happy, on their spare time, and then compare them with yourself.

      Perhaps, in the future, with the way things are going, eating shit would be the fashion. A man would insult another man with something like a shit eating duel. “Look! I am so tough and manly that I can eat my own shit! Can you do it?” And then all the women will go for that guy.

      I heard the French already have something equally bizarre, called something like, “rosh-ambeau” or testicles fight. Where two men kick each other in the balls till one falls down and can’t continue.

      By the way, I think blue whales have the longest penis of any creature on this planet. One of those things could probably fuck two women at the same time, completely impaling them from anus to mouth. I will give more information later to horse penis envy complex about how blue whales fuck one another.

      He might find it inspirational.

  10. Long long time been here said

    @ 0112337, doesn’t it feel better to give a justified argument rather than stooping down to other’s level with insults?

  11. S said

    For the last few centuries, Christians went over to the middle east/Africa/central asia, enslaved, robbed, tortured and murdered the Muslims.

    Some 60 years ago, European Christians slaughtered the Jews and then later, successfully created a wedge between the Jews and Muslim by encouraging the Jews to subjugate the Muslims and took their land.

    For the past few decades, some Muslims living among Christians communities took out their grievances by murdering and terrorising the local populace.

    All these from the very same people who believed they are the decedents of some guy who covered his little genital with a tree leave and got kicked out of his home by the land lord because his wife ate from the land lord’s apple tree.

    You lots are really all fucked up.

    • MyLaowai said

      I knew you couldn’t keep away, Stoogie.

      Say hi to your mom from me many of us. Good boy.

    • Nips Are Great said

      S….

      I’m happy to be anti-commiechink.

      I think it’s fair to say that’s one of the features of this site.

      And the commiechinks and their supporters are fair game.

      • s said

        that is fair enough nips….

        It is also fair to say most commentators here, you especially, behave like arseholes (except for me of course). It is rather sanctimonious of you to ask others to be rational when you carry on like a prick most of the times.

        Why don’t you and Professor Scoobydo cry baby all go and have a wank …. and chill man…

      • Nips Are Great said

        I haven’t asked anybody to be rational.

        I just keep on yanking on a dog’s chain.

        And the dog keeps on barking.

  12. Scoobydo said

    “For the last few centuries, Christians went over to the middle east/Africa/central asia, enslaved, robbed, tortured and murdered the Muslims.”

    Actually, scholars agree that the Muslims were probably bigger African slavers than the Christians. Muslims also enslaved Europeans, both as ordinary slaves and as slave soldiers.

    (1) Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans… …and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.

    http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html

    (2) The Muslim Barbary Corsairs, between the 16th & 19th centuries, enslaved between 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans by seizing them from as far away as Ireland & Iceland.

    It is an interesting fact that at the time of the Spanish Armada, Barbary pirates were raiding the coasts of Britain & Ireland and seizing the populations of whole villages which were then sold as slaves in the Ottoman slave markets. Women were greatly preferred. Men were often castrated.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade#Scope_of_the_trade

    (3) The Ottomans also enslaved large numbers of Europeans either directly through their imperial colonial wars of conquest or as required tribute from already conquered European territories.

    For instance, the famous Ottoman Janissaries were Christian Greek, Albanian, Serb, Bosnian, Ukrainian and Southern Russian slaves bought as young boys.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary#Recruitment.2C_training_and_status

    (4) In Islamic countries, Dhimmis (non Muslims) who were unable to pay their Non-Muslim tax could be enslaved

    http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

    (5) At the borders of the Islamic Empire vast number of new slaves were castrated ready for sale (Islamic law did not allow mutilation of slaves, so it was done before they crossed the border). The majority of these slaves came from Europe and Africa.

    http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

    (6) When the Europeans abolished slavery in the 1800’s, the taking of slaves in Africa by Muslims continued. The eradication of such practices was cited as a major justification by the Europeans for the colonization of Africa.

    Encyclopaedia Britannia’s Historical Survey of Slavery points out that “The European colonization movement of the second half of the 19th century put an end to slavery in many parts of Africa…”

    http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

    (7) Slavery was abolished in most Islamic countries, although it persisted in Saudi Arabia into the 1960’s. Slavery was finally was made illegal in the Arabian Peninsula in 1962.”

    Slavery continues to this day in two, now Islamic, countries colonised by Islamic Arabs – Mauritania and Sudan (with an estimated 600,000 and 200,000 slaves respectively).

    As recently, as 1950, it is thought that 20% (450,000) of Saudi Arabia’s population was slaves. Slavery still continues unlawfully in the Arab states of the Persian Gulf to this day.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa
    http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

    “For the last few centuries, Christians went over to the middle east/Africa/central asia, enslaved, robbed, tortured and murdered the Muslims.

    For the past few decades, some Muslims living among Christians communities took out their grievances by murdering and terrorising the local populace “

    If Muslims have a grievance because they were purportedly enslaved by Christians, then they are as historically confused as you are!

    • Nips Are Great said

      Repeat yourself some more.

      It worked for Hitler.

      • Scoobydo said

        “It worked for Hitler.”

        Indeed it did.

        Hitler’s SS divisions made up of Muslims had a reputation for being just as brutal as the regular SS or as Jihadists today.

        “During World War II, hundreds of thousands of foreign peoples joined with Hitler’s legions to bring theirs people into special status in Hitler’s New Order.

        Tens of thousands among them were Muslims, where the majority of them came from Soviet Union.

        Under the banner of the crescent and the swastika, these Soviet Muslims believe to become holy warriors to liberate theirs land…

        …An example of theirs cruelty occurred in Dortan in Ain on July 21, 1944 where the Tartars soldiers punished the village because its hospitality to the Maquis.

        According the reports of eyewitnesses, they raped women that fell into their hands, burned the village, and laugh wild while playing in the front of the flames with children bicycles.”

        http://stosstruppen39-45.tripod.com/id10.html

        Hitler’s Muslim SS burning, raping and mudering in the name of Islam.

        Nothing much has changed then.

      • Nips Are Great said

        That goddamned dog is barking again.

        Can somebody throw it a bone.

      • s said

        how about you stop yanking the dog’s chain

      • S said

        http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

        http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html

        1251 acts of cruelty recorded in the bible vs 512 in the Quran

      • Nips Are Great said

        I didn’t check your links.

        And actually I’m hoping Scoobedoo will give us something on how nasty the Muslims are to dogs.

        Like some link to a crass tabloid about how they’re training dogs to be suicide bombers and when they die they go to Muslim dog heaven and there’s a pile of meaty dog bones for them to chew, a hundred virgin lassies for their pleasure, and always a cat to bark at.

        Maybe he can work Benji and Fido in there some how.

      • Scoobydo said

        “And actually I’m hoping Scoobedoo will give us something on how nasty the Muslims are to dogs.”

        Can do.

        ‘Unclean’ guide dog banned by Muslim cab driver

        A Muslim minicab driver refused to take a blind passenger because her guide dog was “unclean”.

        Abdul Rasheed Majekodumni told Jane Vernon she could not get into his car with the dog because of his religion.

        Islamic tradition warns Muslims against contact with dogs because they are seen as impure.

        Drivers who refuse to take a guide dog can lose their licence or get a fine of up to £1,000 but Mr Alker said cases rarely went to court.

        “Victims must have the support of the area licensing authority who have the power to bring a prosecution or discipline the driver,” he said. “So many drivers flout the law and get away with it.”

        Earlier this month Mrs Vernon supported-another blind woman who was refused a taxi ride take the case to court. Bernie Reddington, 37, had asked driver Basir Miah for a lift home after a hospital appointment at Great Ormond Street but he had refused, calling her dog “dirty”.

        Horseferry Magistrates Court found him guilty of breaching the terms of his licence and fined him £150 plus £250 compensation.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-408912/Unclean-guide-dog-banned-Muslim-cab-driver.html

      • Scoobydo said

        1251 acts of cruelty recorded in the bible vs 512 in the Quran

        Good on you S!

        Using facts to back up an argument!

        See if you can teach Nips Are Great how to do that rather than him subjecting us to his dazzling ‘intellectual’ diatribes.

      • Nips Are Great said

        You have no argument.

        You have only hatred.

        Some terrible events have happened.

        The people responsible for these events make good Muslims look bad.

        You are in need of therapy.

      • MyLaowai said

        A Muslim minicab driver refused to take a blind passenger because her guide dog was “unclean”.

        That’s awful!

        I took a blind girl once. She said that I had the biggest member she’d ever felt.

        I told her she was pulling my leg…

      • S said

        I bet you the blind girl also said Mylaowai Junior look very much like one of your close friend.

  13. Scoobydo said

    Some terrible events have happened.
    The people responsible for these events make good Muslims look bad.

    The problem appears to be that a minority of bad Muslims appear to be very successful at dominating the more moderate Muslims. For instance,

    Tower Hamlets Taliban: Death threats to women who don’t wear veils. Gays attacked in the streets. And all in a borough at the heart of Britain’s capital…

    Moderate Muslims told how the IFE (Islamic Forum of Europe) and its allies were enforcing their hardline views on the rest of the community, cracking down on behaviour they deemed ‘un-Islamic’.

    For example, IFE leaders were recorded expressing opposition to democracy, support for sharia law and mocking black people. According to one of its leaflets, the IFE wants to change the ‘very infrastructure of society, its institutions, its culture, its political order and its creed . . . from ignorance to Islam’.

    And there have been allegations of corruption during council elections, with the names of hundreds of Bangladeshi ‘ghost voters’ suddenly appearing on the electoral register.

    Recently, it was reported that a 31-year-old Asian woman who works in a local chemist’s had received death threats for refusing to wear a veil, even though she’s not a practising Muslim.

    Four weeks ago, the woman’s boss was apparently approached by an Asian in his 40s who told him his employee must cover her head and wear longer robes.

    ‘If she keeps working here and continues to dress like that, we will boycott you because this is a Muslim area,’ the shop’s owner was told.

    Subsequently another, younger, Asian man came into the pharmacy and started shouting at the employee.

    ‘He said: “If you keep doing these things, we will kill you,”’ recalls a Bangladeshi-born man who witnessed the scene.

    It is not the first time such death threats have been issued, and nor are they confined to issues of dress and deportment.

    In behaviour that some have compared to that of the Taliban in Afghanistan, homophobic abuse and physical attacks against gay men and women are also reported to be on the increase.

    On the streets, evidence of Muslim extremism is not difficult to find. ‘Sharia law for the UK’ is a slogan popular with the extremists, who also hand out leaflets proclaiming that, in the name of Allah, the area is a ‘gay-free zone’.

    Fears over the number of homophobic incidents in Tower Hamlets at the hands of Islamic extremists have grown in recent years.

    Shiria Khatun is a Muslim Labour councillor in Tower Hamlets, and has endured a similar experience to the one faced by the chemist’s assistant who was threatened because she refused to wear a veil. Last year she, too, was subjected to a barrage of threats relating to the way she dressed.

    Following his election as mayor, Lutfur Rahman promised to work with ‘every member of the community, whether they are Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Jew, Christian or people of no faith’.

    But this pledge is being jeopardised by evidence of threatening behaviour directed at the non-religious, discrimination against women and gays, hostility to whites and censorship of Western fashion — all of which is to be expected in Islamic areas of Afghanistan run by the Taliban, but not in a borough at the heart of Britain’s capital.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386558/Tower-Hamlets-Taliban-Death-threats-women-gays-attacked-streets.html

    You have no argument.

    You recon?

    Death threats for not wearing a veil, the push for hard line Sharia law, racism against black people, discrimination against women, hostility against whites, election fraud and attacking gay people.

    It’s all there, right in the heart of London!

    You are in need of therapy.

    Could I suggest that you are in need of opening your eyes?

    It’s also interesting that you still haven’t risen above ad hominem attacks, which says something about the weakness of your position.

    Yet, you insist on defending the indefensible!

    I can only suspect that you are a fully paid up member of the Islamic Forum of Europe.

    • 0112337 said

      Well, too bad profe. According to this article,

      http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/66805/nicholas-eberstadt/the-demographic-future

      The major drivers of world population growth in 20 years will be by Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sub-Saharan Africa. All of whose loyal sons and daughters wish to go to the U.K. You have no choice. BOW DOWN to the inevitable, peaceful, population conquest. In 70 or so years, U.K. WILL BE Islamicized.

      My Pakistani and African brothers will RULE THE WORLD.

      So, do the sensible thing, and repeat after me,

      “Allahummaghfirli, warhamnii, wajburnii, warfa’nii, warzuqnii, wahdinii, wa’afinii, wa’fu’annii”,Allaahumma salli ‘alaa Muhammadin”

      اللهم صلى على محمد وعلى آل محمد كما صليت على إبراهيم وعلى آل إبراهيم
      وبارك على محمد وعلى آل محمد كما باركت على إبراهيم وعلى آل إبراهيم
      فى العالمين إنك حميد مجيد

      “ALLAHU-ACKBAR!!”
      “ALLAHU-ACKBAR!!”
      “ALLAHU-ACKBAR!!”

      • Scoobydo said

        “In 70 or so years, U.K. WILL BE Islamicized.”

        White Britons to become minority by 2066

        White Britons will be outnumbered by 2066 if the rate of immigration continues, researchers have claimed.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8142176/White-Britons-to-become-minority-by-2066.html

        It is unlikely that current trends will continue however, because pretty much the whole of Western Europe is sick of immigration, especially third world Muslim immigration.

        Of course there are a couple of deaf, blind and dumb ‘liberal’ dinosaurs on this forum who make bare faced apologises for Islamic terrorism.

        Arrogantly and naively they don’t even realise that European public opinion has changed radically in the last 24 months and that its their pro-Islamic opinions that are now held to be repugnant and unacceptable in Europe.

        It wasn’t for nothing that the German Chancellor, the French President and the British PM all said that multiculturalism is dead.

        The ordinary European people, who are beyond sick of Muslims, are the ones dragging the politicians behind.

      • 0112337 said

        “Arrogantly and naively they don’t even realise that European public opinion has changed radically in the last 24 months and that its their pro-Islamic opinions that are now held to be repugnant and unacceptable in Europe.”

        Of course it will change. It is a fundamental fact of human nature. Nobody, no matter which culture, wish to see their homeland changed, where their culture is no longer present or recognizable.

        Even Americans can’t accept that, despite all the BS they spin, did you Europeans think you are so tolerant that YOU can do it? BULLSHIT.

        It’s just like the deal with Bin Laden. Did you fools REALLY think that Pakistan didn’t know where he was? BULLSHIT. One Muslim brother never sells out another Muslim brother, that’s why they don’t tell you where Bin Laden is.

        Here is a thought. We know,

        1. You folks don’t breed much.
        2. Muslims have more babies.

        And,

        3. By 2066, There will be more muslims in U.K. than other Britons.

        Then,

        Do you think you have any more power to STOP immigration by that point? Or even right now?

        WHAT’S DONE IS ALREADY DONE. Now, all you can do, is to try and figure out how to incorporate these new people into your culture. How to sell your culture to them. The debate about stopping immigration is pointless. Whether if you stop or not, by 2066, THEY WILL COME ANYWAY.

        The problem you are facing is just like the Mexican problem being faced by Americans. Americans have decided to try and incorporate Mexicans into American culture, which is infinitely cheaper and politically correct, rather than setting border guards through things like the Minuteman Project to keep these people out or to kill them without anyone knowing.

        An example of the American Incorporation Project, the cartoon, “Dora”.

        “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgMgLjMghuk&feature=related”

      • 0112337 said

        Remember what I said about the alternative to Mao’s Population Warfare? “The Peaceful Population Warfare” ?

        Here is an example of it being practiced in reality. Apparently Qaddafi and I were thinking along the same lines!!

        Great minds truly think alike.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/world/europe/14refugees.html?pagewanted=1&ref=world

        Onwards my African muslim brothers!!! On to victory!!!

    • Nips Are Great said

      Ok I agree with everything you have to say.

      Tell all your friends and feel like a big man.

  14. Scoobydo said

    “Ok I agree with everything you have to say.”

    No fight left in you?

    Sick of getting proved wrong, again and again and again?

    Tired of being a cheerleader for fundamentalist Islam?

    “Tell all your friends and feel like a big man.”

    You still have a little of that Islamic jihadi fire in you.

    Like a old Taliban almost out on his feet, you can still summon up the last dregs of energy to launch another, admittedly feeble, ad hominem attack.

    Why don’t you go running back to the skirts of your Islamic radical heroes?

    Like these men:-

    Muslim group burns poppies on Remembrance Day in London

    A large model of a poppy was burned in protest of the war in Afghanistan and several demonstrators chanted during two minutes of silence in London during Thursday morning Armistice Day ceremonies.

    A group that calls itself Muslims Against Crusades chanted, “British soldiers burn in hell,” and held signs saying, “Islam will dominate” and, “Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell.”

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2010/11/11/16088711.html

    Families of dead British soldiers react with fury to British Muslim hate preacher’s taunts

    The families of soldiers killed by friendly fire in Iraq have reacted with fury after a firebrand preacher taunted them over the deaths of their loved ones.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160958/HE-coward-mocking-victims-friendly-Families-dead-soldiers-react-fury-Muslim-hate-preacher.html

    Outrage as Muslim extremists hijack war heroes’ town Wootton Bassett

    A town famed for honouring dead British soldiers returning from Afghanistan expressed its dismay yesterday at plans by an extremist Islamic group to march through its streets.

    Islam4UK, which calls itself a ‘platform’ for the fanatical Al-Muhajiroun movement, said its supporters will parade through Wootton Bassett in the near future.

    Their plan comes just months after Islamic extremists provoked outrage by staging a protest during a homecoming parade in Luton for 200 British soldiers.

    About 20 protesters jeered troops and waved placards denouncing them as ‘Butchers of Basra’ and ‘Baby-killers’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240044/Outrage-Muslim-extremists-hijack-war-heroes-town-Wootton-Bassett.html

  15. Nips Are Great said

    Yes, you have proved me wrong.

    I guess you’re not a big man after all.

    Just a dog.

    A cartoon character.

    Keep on hating.

  16. Scoobydo said

    I guess you’re not a big man after all.

    Keep on hating.

    Another ad hominem attack.

    Tell you what.

    I will continue to oppose Muslims who attack homosexuals, treat women as second class citizens, are racist towards non Muslims, want to murder people in the name of Islam, want to execute people who ‘insult’ Allah or Muhammad, want to force non Muslim women to wear burqas on threat of death, want to kill people who leave Islam, insult dead British soldiers and their families and want to establish a Muslim state in Europe.

    And you can keep on defending them.

    • Nips Are Great said

      No, no.

      I’m just pointing out how you have brilliantly proved me wrong.

      Very wrong indeed.

      You’re not a big man after all.

      But you have proved me right about your hatred.

      That’s undeniable.

      You’re welcome to continue barking.

      • S said

        Self proclaimed professor Scoobydo: “Using facts to back up an argument!”

        Quoting Murdoch tabloid to support your argument doesnt sound very academic to me …

        Supposedly you are the elite you claimed to be, one can’t even imagine how fucked up the general poms/Europeans are ..

        You fuckers have absolutely no hope.

        PS.
        Feel really sorry for you losers, perhaps if you understood the following simple message, you will no longer need to live in fear: If it were possible to send you messages by way of words, ……”

      • Scoobydo said

        “I’m just pointing out how you have brilliantly proved me wrong.

        Very wrong indeed.

        You’re not a big man after all.

        But you have proved me right about your hatred.

        That’s undeniable.”

        So let me get this correct. You have conceded that everything I have said is true.

        But according to you, to state the truth amounts to hate.

        If I didn’t know better, I would suspect that you were part of the left wing ‘thought police’.

        Let me know how being politically correct gets you on with Islamic fundamentalists.

        In the mean time, allow the rest of us to call a spade a spade.

      • Nips Are Great said

        Jesus, is there an organization in the world called ‘The Left Wing Thought Police’?

        I didn’t know.

        Could you tell me about it Scoobee?

        I’d really like to know about it from you, an intellectual with a penetrating mind who does so much ‘academic writing’ that you ‘don’t have time to proof read’.

        And please tell me and the rest of the world what a spade is. I’m embarrassed to say I sometimes get it mixed up with a shovel.

        Goddamn, I just can’t wait to learn more from you.

        Hey Scoob, I was just reading the news this a.m. and came across this article that’s sure to interest you.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6528881.stm

  17. Scoobydo said

    You fuckers have absolutely no hope.

    Feel really sorry for you losers, perhaps if you understood the following simple message, you will no longer need to live in fear: If it were possible to send you messages by way of words, ……”

    Perhaps it would be best if you didn’t post when you had been drinking.

    • S said

      One is still able to possess enough clarity of thought after 10 nips of scoth to see through the foolishness in some fake professor’s rambling regurgitation of British tabloids

      • Scoobydo said

        S said

        “One is still able to possess enough clarity of thought after 10 nips of scoth to see through the foolishness in some fake professor’s rambling regurgitation of British tabloids”

        10 nips of scoth?

        You really have been hitting the bottle.

  18. Scoobydo said

    “Nips Are Great said

    Hey Scoob, I was just reading the news this a.m. and came across this article that’s sure to interest you.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6528881.stm

    In Iran the Muslim’s believe that neckties – and bowties are decadent, un-Islamic and viewed as “symbols of the Cross” and the oppressive West.

    How interesting.

    Here is a link that may be of interest to you.

    Imam of Florida mosque and his sons are arrested on charges of financing Pakistani Taliban

    The Imam of a Florida mosque and his two sons were arrested on Saturday on charges of financing and supporting the Pakistani Taliban.

    The three Pakistan-born U.S. citizens were among six charged in a U.S. indictment that accused them of ‘supporting acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming in Pakistan and elsewhere’ carried out by the Pakistani Taliban’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387185/Florida-mosque-Iman-sons-arrested-charges-financing-Taliban-Pakistan.html

    Nips Are Great said

    “And please tell me and the rest of the world what a spade is.”

    You have misunderstood. I was referring to ‘calling a spade a spade’. It is an idiom. This link will help you understand what an idiom is:-

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idiom

    “an expression whose meaning is not predictable from the usual meanings of its constituent elements, as kick the bucket or hang one’s head, or from the general grammatical rules of a language…”

    Calling a spade a spade would entail calling the three Florida Pakistan-born U.S. citizens (the Iman of the Florida Mosque and his 2 sons) supporters of acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming in Pakistan and elsewhere as carried out by the Pakistani Taliban.

    The expression ‘The Left Wing Thought Police’ (you yourself clearly display some of the malady) refers to tactics employed by people of a ‘politically correct’ persuasion to stifle debate.

    Perhaps an example will aid your understanding.

    A politically correct individual seeking to stifle debate would protest that pointing out that the Florida Iman and his sons are supporters of acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming in Pakistan and elsewhere as carried out by the Pakistani Taliban, amounts to hatred on the part of anyone who publicises the above said support of acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming in Pakistan and elsewhere as carried out by the Pakistani Taliban, by the Florida Iman and his two sons.

    Employing this tactic, they would typically engage in ad hominem attacks, branding anyone who pointed out that the Florida Iman and his sons are supporters of acts of murder, kidnapping and maiming in Pakistan and elsewhere as carried out by the Pakistani Taliban, as displaying hatred.

    The implication being that while the statement made about the Iman and his sons is true, saying so amounts to hatred and hence should not be said.

    Please let me know if I can explain anymore of the intricacies of the English language or the tools employed by people of a ‘politically correct’ nature to stifle debate.

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